[stunnel-users] key+cert+dh risks

Christophe Nanteuil christophe.nanteuil at gmail.com
Tue Feb 15 22:29:53 CET 2011

2011/2/13 Jean-Yves F. Barbier <12ukwn at gmail.com>

> On Sun, 13 Feb 2011 22:21:10 +0100, Ludolf Holzheid
> <lholzheid at bihl-wiedemann.de> wrote:
> > On Sat, 2011-02-12 14:32:19 +0100, Jean-Yves F. Barbier wrote:
> > > [..]
> > >
> > > Hmmm, so it looks like may the entropy may be higher with 2 different
> keys.
> >
> > Yes, but if this was more than a hypothetical problem, there would be
> > a counter for uses of the key and a recommendation to use a new key
> > after a certain number of uses.
> For my own security, keys are rotated on a monthly basis.

Yes and, of course, you are sure that your random generator is better than
the debian one before may 2008...

> > Think of how many times the web
> > banking servers use their key ...
> I totally agree with this.
> > Don't be too concerned about that.
> Yes, I am, because it is not the bank interests I protect, but mine!
> The advantage of this question is it forced me to read more about openssl,
> and now I think I'm gonna do it by the rules: separating every parts into
> different files because the exercice is interesting and also because I'll
> soon
> need to configurate a larger network of clients.
> However, openssl lacks *real long term* security features (why signing into
> sha1 instead of sha384 or sha512 when it is quite surely already broken by
> gov
> Sces?), and is also somehow suspect (remember the 1 line bug that have
> lasted
> for a looong time? After disclosure it was fixed but not a word from
> the team about it and not a line in the changelog too......)

Do you REALLY think that a brute force attack is what someone would use to
gain access to YOUR data ?

> What I also wouldn't like is somebody record the whole connexion and decode
> it
> several years after, once the computer farms power is high enough.

ever heard of  'forward secrecy' ? (
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